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Why I Voted to Disaffiliate from the Church of the Nazarene to Avoid LGBTQ+ Exclusion

August 15, 2025

On April 27, 2025, the church I’ve attended for 25 years, Oklahoma City First Church of the Nazarene (“OKC 1st”), voted to spiritually disaffiliate from the Nazarene denomination, primarily because the denomination was no longer willing to tolerate our tolerance of LGBTQ+ people.

Our church has always welcomed anyone sincerely interested in learning more about God, worshipping him, studying what it means to be a disciple of Jesus, and serving our community, including LGBTQ+ people.

That said, OKC 1st has never performed a gay marriage, admitted any practicing LGBTQ+ person to membership, allowed one to teach Sunday school or affirmed the LGBTQ+ lifestyle as not sinful. Before COVID, we did dedicate the baby of a gay couple on one occasion, but only after obtaining permission from the denomination, which agreed it was the right thing to do. Relatively recently, we have also allowed a gay mother to attend church camp as one of multiple sponsors in her child’s group and allowed a gay man to lead the choir.

It appears that these two most recent events were the tipping point that led the denomination to conduct what was essentially a heresy investigation into OKC 1st’s ministry, during which the denomination indicated that to remain in good standing, OKC 1st must forbid LGBTQ+ people from serving in such “leadership” roles. Then at some point, disaffiliation was raised as a potential alternative. Our congregation decided to proceed down the path of considering and ultimately voting on spiritual disaffiliation. On April 27, 2025, about 98% voted to do just that.

Throughout this whole process, I’ve come to see the point of disagreement as something much deeper than simply whether homosexuality is a sin. OKC 1st is populated by people on all sides of that debate — some of us believe it is a sin, some of us don’t, and some of us aren’t sure either way.

What we do agree on, however, is that one’s stance on this issue is not an essential doctrinal tenet. Beliefs about the ethics of homosexuality — an issue Jesus never directly mentioned and one the entire New Testament mentions fewer than five times — are not even remotely on par with beliefs about the divine inspiration of Scripture, the deity of Christ, the resurrection and salvation by grace.

Once you classify any ethical or doctrinal issue as non-essential, the issue then becomes how one should go about ministering to and doing church with those whom one disagrees. Where should one draw the line between condoning and condemning the behavior of others? Which lifestyle choices should one tolerate, and which ones disqualify someone from participating in communal worship, communion, study, fellowship and minor leadership roles?

Questions like these do not have easy answers. We at OKC 1st have wrestled with where to draw the types of lines in our relationships with one another and with others, just as the denomination has struggled with where to draw them regarding OKC 1st. We realize that to take a stance either way is to risk being either too tolerant or too intolerant, too inclusive or too exclusive.

Personally, my study of Jesus’ teachings and example, particularly his interactions with the religious gatekeepers of his day, has made me hesitant to cast the first stone (John 8:7), wary of shutting the door of the kingdom of heaven in anyone’s face (Matthew 23:13), cognizant of Jesus’ instruction not to judge others for we will be judged in the same way that we judge (Matthew 7:2), cautious of pointing out the speck in another’s eye while ignoring the plank in my own (Matthew 7:3-4), perpetually aware that all — most notably myself — have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23), and fearful of excelling in minor legalistic details while neglecting the more important matters of the law, like justice, mercy and faithfulness (Matthew 23:13).

At the same time, when I see that Jesus himself was condemned by the Pharisees for welcoming and befriending sinners, it makes me less afraid to do the same. And when I look at the undeserved love and grace that Jesus extended to me while I was yet a sinner (and which he continues to extend to me as I inevitably continue sinning), I can’t help but try to extend it to others.

When navigating this issue, I’ve also found it helpful to imagine my child as the person on the other side. If one of my children came out as gay and then expressed a desire to become involved in my church community, not for the purpose of seeking affirmation or to push any type of agenda but simply to worship, learn, serve, and fellowship, how would I respond? How would I want my fellow church members to respond? I’m pretty sure I’d roll out the red carpet and want others to do the same. (By the way, some of the families at OKC 1st are here because they’ve found themselves in this exact situation and our church welcomed their children.)

These are the types of things that have nudged me toward erring on the side of inclusion and embrace, and, ultimately, they have convinced me to be neither affirming nor condemning but welcoming.

From my perspective, this is also the general posture of OKC 1st as a whole. Our approach to ministry is based on a belief that the good news of God’s grace, forgiveness and love is best spread through friendship and hospitality, not through rebuke and exclusion. We recognize that some churches believe in the fire-and-brimstone method of drawing people to faith. We do not.

In fact, it is not our habit to single out any victimless sins for special condemnation, whether it be vanity, pride, greed, materialism, nationalism, divorce or homosexuality. The only sin you are likely to hear called out from our pulpit is the sin of failing to love like Jesus. You might say our motto is “love ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out.”

OKC 1st’s sole agenda (again, from my perspective as an active, long-time member) is spreading the gospel through the preaching of God’s word, the creation of disciples and service to our community. All other agendas — whether political, social or cultural — are subordinate. And all such agendas that hinder our ability to spread the gospel are unwelcome. We are focused on being Christians above all else — before we are teachers or lawyers, Democrats or Republicans, Black or White, Hispanic or American, gay or straight. You will not find any flags in our sanctuary, neither pride flags nor American flags.

If you know any of the LGBTQ+ Christians at OKC 1st, then you know they conduct themselves just like everyone else. They attend regularly, they worship, they study, they tithe and they serve. They do not act as if their primary identity is their sexual orientation or their mission is to convince others to fully affirm their lifestyle. I’ve found that their faith is just as strong as mine and their character just as Christlike, often more so.

I also believe LGBTQ+ Christians' presence at OKC 1st has made us a better church. Doing church with those who are not exactly like us challenges us to become more Christlike, to expand our capacity to love the “other.” It forces us to learn how to disagree Christianly, something we talk a lot about at OKC 1st. And it also compels us to focus on the true essentials, like embodying the greatest of all commands: to love. “By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another” (John 13:35).

There’s a sense in which learning to disagree in a Christian way on non-essentials is essential. Christian discipleship is not meant to be comfortable. It’s meant to generate growth — in the direction of Christlikeness. In my opinion, a diversity of viewpoints and opinions is not a weakness but a strength, something to be embraced, even pursued.

Our theological forefather John Wesley famously proclaimed, “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity.” The granting of liberty and charity in non-essentials necessarily lends itself to inclusion, and this is precisely the approach that I believe OKC 1st aspires to embody in its relationships with everyone, including LGBTQ+ persons.

Do we always get it right? Absolutely not. Have we drawn these lines perfectly? Highly unlikely. But we are trying our best to avoid the judgmental, condemning, exclusionary posture for which Jesus so frequently chastised the Pharisees and instead embody what we believe was Jesus’ approach towards all sinners who demonstrated a genuine interest in him: welcoming but not affirming.

I love the Church of the Nazarene. Although I disagree with it in this case and lament the fact that it no longer has room in its tent for a church whose approach to ministry is the type described above, I wish it the best and pray God blesses it. But at the same time, when we find ourselves in a place where we are no longer welcome, I believe we must shake the dust off our feet and move on (Matthew 10:14).

This article was first published in May of 2025 at Oklahoman.com/opinion under the title “I love my church. Disaffiliating to avoid LGBTQ+ exclusion was the right move.”

After Reading 1,000 Books, These Are My Top 20

February 25, 2023

After graduating from law school in May of 2005, I began tracking each book I consumed (via reading and listening), rating each along the way. Odd, I know, but it’s how I’m wired. According to the StrengthsFinder assessment, one of my top five characteristics is Input, which means I like to collect information and ideas. Oh boy, do I. For the books in the Christian/Theology genre, and a few others, I didn’t merely read them—I highlighted the best insights and transferred those passages into word documents for later organization and analysis.

On January 14, 2023, I finished reading my 1,000th book, so I thought I’d memorialize the achievement by sharing some of my favorites. But before I do, here is a crude categorization of all 1,000 and some random stats, which I whipped up out of personal curiosity:

Adventure/Travel: 53 (5.3%)

Biography/History: 131 (13.1%)

Business/Leadership: 51 (5.1%)

Christian/Theology: 351 (35.1%)

Economics: 22 (2.2%)

Fiction: 14 (1.4%)

Investing/Personal Finance: 73 (7.3%)

Legal: 14 (1.4%)

Poker: 21 (2.1%)

Political Philosophy/Politics: 111 (11.1%)

Self-Improvement/Pop Psychology: 115 (11.5%)

Writing: 44 (4.4%)

Average number of books read per year: 56.5

Average number of books read per week: 1.1

Most books read in a single year: 120 in 2016

Longest book read: 1,492 pages (The Crucifixion of the Warrior God by Gregory A. Boyd)

Read vs. Listened: 667 vs. 333

Non-Fiction vs. Fiction: 98.6% vs. 1.4%

Most read authors:

  • Bill O’Reilly and Martin Dugard: 13 (their Killing Series is fun historical listening)

  • John Howard Yoder: 13

  • N.T. Wright: 10

  • Gregory A. Boyd: 8

With the caveat that I am fully aware of the subjective nature of this list, which depends not only upon my personal interests but also upon how those interests have evolved over the years (and they have evolved greatly), here are the books that made it into my top 2%, in no particular order:

The Slavery of Death by Richard Beck

This book was paradigm shifting for me. It introduced me to the idea that fear, particularly our fear of death, is the root of most, if not all, sin. On the most fundamental level, our fear of the things that may lead to death (e.g., not having enough resources to stay healthy and safe or enough power to protect ourselves from others who may threaten such resources) is why we humans so often act unlovingly towards others, so frequently use violence against others, and why self-sacrificial Christlike love is so difficult for us. There’s a reason the most repeated command in the entire Bible is “Do not be afraid.” Fear hinders love. Fear is the enemy.

Greenlights by Matthew McConaughey

Don’t read this book. Listen to it. Without McConaughey’s narration, this book likely wouldn’t be on this list. With his narration, I believe it’s humanly impossible to produce a book that is simultaneously more entertaining and insightful.

The Myth of a Christian Nation: How the Quest for Political Power is Destroying the Church by Gregory A. Boyd

All of Greg Boyd’s books are phenomenal, but this is my favorite. Granted, this topic is of particular interest to me as I’ve come to believe that the unofficial partnership between church and state is mainstream Christianity’s greatest blind spot, particularly in the West. About the only thing that left-leaning and right-leaning Christians agree on is that the church should, even must, pursue and wield political power for the common good. They disagree only on some of the ends to which such power should be employed. Neither side seems aware of the coercive, violence-based nature of governmental power (and how it conflicts with everything Jesus did and taught) nor of the negative effect that using it against others, however indirect such use is via political lobbying, has on the church’s witness. This book is a fantastic introduction to the incongruity between Christian discipleship and political power.

The Five Love Languages: The Secret to Love that Lasts by Gary Chapman

This book occasionally gets a bad rap for being a bit cheesy (the book cover doesn’t help!), but it has 76,000+ reviews on Amazon with an average rating of 4.8 out of 5 for good reason. Love is the purpose of life, and this book will help you love and be loved, in very practical, everyday ways. It has me. In hindsight, the book’s lessons seem obvious, yet I didn’t see most of them before reading it.

Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis

A classic and, for many years, my favorite book. But the more theology I read, the more this book drops in rank. It’s an excellent introductory book, which I still highly recommend, but it only goes so far. If you’ve spent much time studying theology, it likely won’t do much for you. If you haven’t, start here.

The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich by Timothy Ferriss

This side of heaven, time is all we have. This book is a master class on how to focus it, optimize it, enjoy it. Regardless of your work situation or goals, it will improve your life. It may even impact how you organize and spend the different phases of life, as it exposes the downsides to the traditional “deferred life plan” we all take for granted and presents intriguing alternatives to it, like the mini-retirement approach. As a bonus, if your brain tends to operate like that of an engineer, as mine does, you will especially love this book.

Your Money or Your Life: 9 Steps to Transforming Your Relationship With Money and Achieving Financial Independence by Vicki Robin and Joe Dominguez

This book will improve your relationship with money. It does for personal finance what The 4-Hour Workweek does for time. Its premises are simple but invaluable. One of my favorite takeaways is the idea that you should find a meaningful, enjoyable career and then adjust your standard of living to it, instead of targeting a certain material standard of living and then finding a career that supports it, regardless of how meaningful and enjoyable it is. Seems simple enough, but my unthinking, default approach was the latter. I don’t regret my career choices, but I could have benefited from reading this book before college.

The Divine Conspiracy: Rediscovering Our Hidden Life in God by Dallas Willard

If you are looking for a deeper, more thorough overview of Christianity than what Mere Christianity provides, this is it. It is spot on in its theology and contains the best explanation of the Sermon on the Mount I’ve encountered.

Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption by Laura Hillenbrand

What a life! What a testament to the power of forgiveness! What a tale of spiritual redemption! Occasionally, reality truly is more incredible than fiction.

War Is a Force that Gives Us Meaning by Chris Hedges

This book is an antidote to the grossly misleading, tragic glorification of war that permeates popular culture, from Hollywood to government propaganda. War is an addictive drug, one that first intoxicates and then destroys the mind, body, and soul. In an honest society, every potential military recruit would be required to read this book before enlisting.

The Moral Vision of the New Testament: Community, Cross, New Creation: A Contemporary Introduction to New Testament Ethics by Richard B. Hays

Christianity Today named this book as one of the top 100 Christian books of the twentieth century. For the average Christian reader, it’s a bit less accessible than the other theology books on this list, but for any serious student of Christian ethics, it’s a must-read.

Mere Discipleship: Radical Christianity in a Rebellious World by Lee C. Camp

According to popular anecdote, Margaret Thatcher was participating in a policy meeting when she reached into her handbag, pulled out her copy of F.A. Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty, slammed it down on the table, and proclaimed, “This is what I believe!” Well, to channel my inner Thatcher, this is what I believe! Not only is it the best book on Christian discipleship I’ve ever read, it’s also, in my humble opinion, one of the most underappreciated Christian books ever written.

The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure by Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff

Men and women of integrity, mature, responsible, contributing members of society, are produced not by preparing the path for them (i.e., not by protecting them from every type of hardship and struggle, by sheltering them from opinions they disagree with, by convincing them they should blame everyone but themselves for their problems) but by preparing them for the path (i.e., by teaching them how to manage conflict and adversity, how to take responsibility for what they can and should control). Developing such skills and taking such responsibility is a necessary component of living a virtuous, meaningful, fulfilling life. One of the most destructive social trends today is the mainstream propagation of the belief that the average person is a helpless victim who should be shielded from life instead of trained to deal with it. Don’t buy it.

I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist by Norman L. Geisler and Frank Turek

Most people who believe that faith in the God of the Bible is ridiculous and irrational have never encountered a logical, philosophical, historical, evidence-based case for such faith. This book powerfully presents such a case. I understand the limits of this type of apologetics, but it has its place. If you are an intellectual skeptic, read this book.

Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy by Thomas Sowell

Ignorance of basic economics is so widespread it’s disheartening. Understanding just a few simple economic principles will open your eyes to the counter-productivity of so many political policies, many of them widely popular. Such knowledge may also cause you to stop harming others through such policies, or at least teach you how to help them more effectively. For example, here’s a key takeaway: There are no free lunches. Everything is a tradeoff and every policy harms someone. Many economic policies, like rent controls, are clearly more harmful than helpful to the very people they intend to benefit, particularly over the mid to long term. And even policies like the minimum wage harm many, if not most, of those they intend to help, often the most vulnerable.

The War of the Lamb: The Ethics of Nonviolence and Peacemaking by John Howard Yoder

I’ve read about everything Yoder published and this is my favorite. It’s better than his much more famous book The Politics of Jesus, although it’s also worth reading. Yoder’s The Original Revolution: Essays on Christian Pacifism is likewise excellent. If you are interested in exploring Christian pacifism, read all three. Start with The War of the Lamb, but skip the lengthy introduction, which isn’t worth the effort.

The Upside-Down Kingdom by Donald B. Kraybill

God’s kingdom, the one that Jesus inaugurated and calls us to embody here and now, is so counterintuitive to the ways of the world that it is difficult to conceptualize. This book will help you do precisely that. Enlightening. Challenging. Inspiring. Refreshing. If you’ve been turned off by the shallow, mundanity of mainstream Christianity in America today, give this book a look. Christianity is so much more, and so much more beautiful.

Surprised by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, the Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church and Simply Christian: Why Christianity Makes Sense and Simply Jesus: A New Vision of Who He Was, What He Did, and Why He Matters by N.T. Wright

Okay, so I cheated on this one by not picking a single book, but I have a complicated relationship with N.T. Wright’s writings. He is a relatively verbose, stream-of-consciousness writer, and for a somewhat structure-obsessed, succinctness-loving brain like mine, it’s difficult to fall in love with any single one of Wright’s books. That said, taken as a whole, his body of work has had an immense impact on my theology, and countless others. He is widely considered the most influential, prolific, and well-known New Testament scholar alive. So despite my cognitive incompatibility with his writing style, the payoff of engaging with his books has always been more than worth the trouble.

Chasing the Scream: The First and Last Days of the War on Drugs by Johann Hari

Employing a journalistic approach, Hari examines the history and impact of the war on drugs through the stories of numerous drug war participants—warriors, users, dealers, addicts, counselors, etc. He weaves their lives together masterfully while also seamlessly incorporating just the right amount of scientific data, statistics, and public policy analysis. If you support the war on drugs, please, please read this book. The war on drugs is, in my semi-studied opinion, clearly more harmful than helpful.

Endangered Gospel: How Fixing the World is Killing the Church by John C. Nugent

Like Boyd’s The Myth of a Christian Nation, this book addresses the church’s role in society and history, particularly in regard to its relationship with political power. Should the church focus on fixing the world (i.e., on making it a more safe and more comfortable place) or instead on being a community that embodies God’s future kingdom as a foretaste of—and a sign pointing to—it? In other words, should we advance God’s kingdom by politically imposing it on others or by exemplifying it? Professor Nugent argues for the latter posture, one I have come to wholeheartedly agree with.

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Did Jesus Condone Soldiering?

December 28, 2021

One piece of biblical evidence frequently cited to justify violence is Jesus’s and his followers’ encounters with soldiers. The argument goes like this: because they interacted with soldiers in a friendly, sometimes even complimentary manner without condemning their occupation or instructing them to quit the military, they implicitly condoned soldiering, war, or militarism. Here are the three primary passages cited in connection to this claim:

John the Baptist’s Encounter

“What should we do then?” the crowd asked.

John answered, “Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same.”

Even tax collectors came to be baptized. “Teacher,” they asked, “what should we do?”

“Don’t collect any more than you are required to,” he told them.

Then some soldiers asked him, “And what should we do?”

He replied, “Don’t extort money and don’t accuse people falsely—be content with your pay.” (Luke 3:10-14)

Jesus’s Encounter

When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.”

Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?”

The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment. (Matt. 8:5-13)1

Luke’s Encounter

At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. (Acts 10:1-2)

For numerous reasons, these passages do not justify any Christian use of, or participation in, violence. To begin with, none of them say anything positive about soldiering. Neither John nor Jesus nor Luke complimented the soldiers’ profession or professional behavior in any way, shape, or form. Instead, Jesus praised the centurion’s faith and Luke his devotion to God, his fear of God, his charity, and his habitual prayer to God. In doing so, they both praised wholly nonviolent attributes, ones that have nothing to do with soldiering.

In fact, neither Jesus nor Luke said anything, good or bad, about the centurions’ profession or professional conduct. Both merely identified the person as a soldier and stopped there. They didn’t turn his profession into a topic of discussion or use the encounter as an opportunity to debate the ethical merits of serving as a member of an occupying military force.

John the Baptist, on the other hand, praised nothing about the soldiers but condemned two of their professional practices, both of which were violent. He instructed them to not extort money and to not dispense false accusations. Note that he didn’t tell them to use violence for good, to extort money to give to the poor. So yes, maybe John didn’t condemn all violence or tell them to leave the military when he had the chance, but he did condemn two specific violent behaviors, ones that might have made it practically impossible for them to continue being soldiers had they followed his advice. And maybe it did. Maybe they obeyed him and doing so caused them to quit. The Bible doesn’t say.

Also bear in mind that John’s encounter with the soldiers occurred prior to Jesus’s public ministry, so the full extent of Jesus’s nonviolent message had not yet been revealed. John knew almost nothing of Christian ethics. Perhaps that’s why he didn’t issue a more blanket condemnation of all violence. Or maybe he didn’t do so because the two soldiers he was talking to were of the less violent type. Maybe they carried weapons but performed more of a police function, only ever using force to restrain local lawbreakers. The passage doesn’t tell us much about them. If anything, the nature of John’s comments suggests they may have been more like modern-day police officers than modern-day soldiers. Typically police officers, not soldiers, accuse people of crimes. Typically police officers, not soldiers, enforce taxes and therefore have the opportunity to extort.

It’s also worth noting that a few English translations interpret John’s words in this passage as a condemnation of all violence. For example, the King James Bible, Webster’s Bible Translation, and the English Revised Version all translate John as saying, “Do violence to no man.” Similarly, Young’s Literal Translation says “Do violence to no one.”

Of course, Jesus, John, and Luke all wanted the soldiers they encountered to cease all of their sinning in every area of their lives, but condemning their shortcomings wasn’t the point of the interactions. Jesus and Luke condemned nothing, and John only condemned two behaviors because the soldiers asked him to. Surely Jesus and Luke didn’t intend for their lack of condemnation to imply that the soldiers were sinless or to be read as endorsing everything the soldiers did. Surely John wasn’t providing a comprehensive list of everything the soldiers needed to change to achieve perfect righteousness. It is well known that part of an ancient Roman soldier’s normal duties included taking part in various pagan ceremonies and other idolatrous practices, but Jesus, John, and Luke never condemned the soldiers for that.2 Surely their silence as to all the other sinful behaviors the soldiers regularly engaged in, whether personal or professional, wasn’t an endorsement of those behaviors. So why do we think it was an endorsement of violence?

Likewise, Jesus interacted with many other sinners in a similar manner, but we don’t interpret those encounters as endorsing their lifestyles, behaviors, or professions. For example, when a known sinner washed Jesus’s feet with her hair, the Pharisees rebuked her while Jesus welcomed her and complimented her faith, all without condemning her.3 Jesus interacted with a Samaritan woman who had been divorced five times and was living with a man who was not her husband, but he didn’t condemn her for those things.4 Jesus told the temple priests that “the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you” (Matt. 21:31). Jesus invited a violent zealot named Simon to be one of his twelve disciples, a member of his inner circle and one of the few who would represent him to the wider world after his death, but there’s no evidence Jesus first made it known what he thought about Simon’s profession. And as far as we know, Jesus never even condemned the soldiers who crucified him.5 “In fact, with the exception of the Jewish leaders of his day,” notes Boyd, “Jesus never pointed out the things that he did not condone in other people’s lives.”6

So should we conclude that Jesus endorsed sexual promiscuity, serial divorce, tax exploitation, prostitution, violent religious zealotry, and the crucifixion of innocent people? Obviously not. If Luke had identified Cornelius as a member of a well-known band of thieves instead of as a centurion in the Italian Regiment, no one would suggest he had endorsed organized crime. But if we applied the same method of interpretation as those who believe the soldier encounters endorse violence, we would have to.

Put yourself in Jesus’s sandals for a moment. Have you ever been friendly to and complimentary of a known sinner without condemning their well-known sin? Ever spoken an encouraging word to someone you knew had just been caught committing adultery or someone who was engaged in a publicly visible struggle with another sin? By not condemning their known sin, did you intend to endorse it?7

Jesus’s welcoming, encouraging, and loving posture toward all types of sinners was not an endorsement of any sinner’s immoral behavior or profession. Instead, it was a demonstration of how to love others, even enemies. Roman soldiers were, after all, a prominent adversary of the Jewish people.

By praising the soldiers’ positive attributes and not condemning their negative ones (unless asked to do so), Jesus, John, and Luke were also practicing effective evangelism. Remember, they were welcoming and encouraging potential converts, not engaging veteran believers in nuanced ethical discussions. The two call for different approaches. Searching and seeking must be fostered with compliments, not discouraged with rebukes. Wise evangelism finds common ground, praises it, and establishes a loving relationship before it broaches the subject of condemnable conduct. It meets people where they are and focuses on the fundamentals, like faith, which lay the foundation for behavioral change. Condemning someone first only turns them off, makes them defensive, and further alienates them.

Jesus’s approach to evangelism was a key difference between him and the Pharisees. While the Pharisees unhesitatingly condemned strangers for their sinful lifestyles, Jesus went out of his way not to. The Pharisees rejected people until they cleaned up their act, but Jesus welcomed them as they were, broken and imperfect. Jesus didn’t reserve his love for those who appeared to have their act together. That’s why the tax collectors, prostitutes, and sinners were drawn to him and why he spent so much time with them. On more than one occasion, the Pharisees condemned Jesus for how frequently and non-judgmentally he interacted with such sinners, even going so far as accusing him of gluttony and drunkenness.8

Simply put, we should view Jesus’s refusal to condemn the soldiers’ profession as good evangelism, not as endorsing violence. He refrained from condemning it not because he approved of it but because he knew condemnation would have been counterproductive at that stage in the soldier’s faith journey.

This whole situation is ironic. We all recognize that the Pharisees were wrong to accuse Jesus of endorsing things like prostitution, drunkenness, gluttony, and exploitative taxation just because he welcomed, encouraged, and mingled with such people without condemning their sinful behaviors and lifestyles. But those who interpret Jesus, John, and Luke as endorsing violence, soldiering, or militarism because they praised the faith of a soldier without condemning his sinful behavior or lifestyle are making the same mistake. Like the Pharisees, they are erroneously associating Jesus and his disciples with the sinful behaviors of the fallen, broken, searching individuals they embraced and nurtured.

Indeed, one purpose of these soldier encounters was to condemn the Pharisaical way of viewing the world and do what Jesus did on so many occasions: turn commonly accepted power dynamics and prejudices upside down. Jesus was proclaiming that the gospel doesn’t discriminate, that it welcomes all, that no one is unredeemable, and that it can reach and change even the unlikeliest types of people—even soldiers. Jesus had made that same point regarding tax collectors and prostitutes when he told the religious leaders in the temple that such people were entering the kingdom of God ahead of them.9 Now he was making the point with another despised group: Roman occupiers.

Notice whom Jesus was directly addressing when he praised the centurion’s faith. It wasn’t the centurion—it was the crowd of Israelites following him. He turned to them and said, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith.” Then he informed the crowd that many of the people they think are not a part of God’s kingdom, are, and many who think they are, aren’t. Jesus was juxtaposing the faith of “outsiders” against the faith of the self-proclaimed “insiders.” He was putting the self-righteous Israelites in their place and condemning their prejudices. He was breaking down the antiquated religious barriers between Jews and Gentiles. In other words, he identified the centurion as a soldier to establish him as a despised outsider, not to praise soldiering or endorse violence.

One more quick observation. This one is about correct argumentation: To conclude that Jesus’s silence about the soldier’s profession was an endorsement of violence is to make an argument from silence. It is to deduce a conclusion from what isn’t said, to interpret his silence as something more than mere silence, as a message.

Arguments from silence are risky business. More often than not, they are fallacious. So often, in fact, there’s an official logical fallacy called the Argument from Silence Fallacy.

To be legitimate, an argument from silence must be supported by overwhelming contextual evidence. The surrounding circumstances must strongly suggest that the silence is saying something. For example, when a politician who is known for his transparent honesty, no matter the cost, and for aggressively denying all false accusations, is unexpectedly asked during a press conference whether he’s had an affair and he responds by frowning, shamefully lowering his head, and somberly walking off stage without saying a word, it’s reasonable to conclude that his silence communicated an affirmative answer. Even then, however, such an interpretation is rebuttable if additional context can provide a better explanation for his silence. Maybe he hadn’t even heard the question because he was preoccupied with reading a text on his phone that was sitting on the podium, a distracting text informing him his child had just been involved in a serious car wreck.

Without overwhelming contextual evidence, an argument from silence can justify anything, as Andy Alexis-Baker explains:

Since Jesus did not rebuke Pilate for being a governor of an occupying force, he must have sanctioned the Roman occupation and their right to exploit weaker nations, and by extension all colonial and military expansions. Since he did not ask Zacchaeus to leave his job as a tax collector, he must have approved of Roman tax collection and their right to drain resources from an area to the wealthy elite in Rome. Since Jesus did not admonish Pilate for murdering some Galileans in the midst of their sacrifices (Luke 13:3), he sanctioned police brutality and severe repressive measures. Since Jesus did not tell the judges at his own trial that they were wrong for their irregular court proceedings, he sanctions kangaroo courts and dictatorships today. Since Jesus did not reprove the centurion for owning slaves, he therefore condones slavery, even today. These arguments from silence can make Jesus to be the advocate of whatever we want.… The point is that we have to base our analysis of this text on what Jesus says to the centurion, on the entire narrative that Matthew weaves, and even more broadly, on the picture that the New Testament paints of Jesus in regard to nonviolence.10

In our situation, there’s no contextual evidence to support an endorsement of soldiering, violence, or militarism. Nothing else Jesus, John, or Luke said or did in the immediate context or throughout the rest of the New Testament suggests that they were endorsing or ever had endorsed such things.

On the contrary, when we look at the broader context, as I did at length in my book Jesus the Pacifist: A Concise Guide to His Radical Nonviolence, the evidence suggests a contradictory conclusion: Jesus and his disciples not only didn’t endorse violence, but they actually condemned it. For that matter, if there’s a valid argument from silence to be made here, it’s that Jesus’s silence regarding the soldier’s profession was a condemnation of it, not an endorsement. Jesus entered the encounter with an antiviolence reputation. Had he wanted to amend his reputation into something less than complete antiviolence, this was the perfect opportunity. That he chose not to compliment the soldier’s profession in an otherwise friendly and complimentary encounter implies that he didn’t approve of it. That he didn’t seize this easy opportunity to qualify his total pacifism is further evidence of his total pacifism.

Here’s another way to look at the self-defeating nature of an argument from silence in this situation. No one argues that Jesus’s, John’s, or Luke’s silence endorsed all types of soldiering, violence, and war. Even those who suggest they generally endorsed soldiering as a profession don’t claim they endorsed all types of soldiering, like participation in genocidal conquest. So here’s the problem: the only way to know where to draw the line between the types of soldiering their silence endorsed and the types it didn’t endorse is to bring context into our analysis. And when we look at the context in this situation, we are forced to conclude that their silence wasn’t an endorsement at all.

Lasserre made this same point from a slightly different angle. Given that the centurion was a soldier in an occupying force, he asked how someone can justify maintaining a defensive army if they conclude that Jesus’s silence endorsed the centurion’s profession:

Those who make so much play with these four “silences,” and deduce therefrom that the profession of arms is legitimate, do not seem so keen to deduce that the military occupation of a foreign country is legitimate (seeing that these soldiers had come to Palestine as troops of the occupation). If it is legitimate, why do we need a (defensive) army? The justification of military service is destroyed at its roots. And if not, why do they refuse this second deduction, having accepted the first?11

Unfortunately, even some of the most prominent theologians to ever live (e.g., Saint Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, and Martin Luther) fell victim to the Argument from Silence Fallacy in their interpretations of these soldier encounters. Nonetheless, the encounters do not justify violence. Jesus didn’t endorse everything he didn’t condemn. He endorsed only what he said he endorsed: faith. Concluding otherwise is a classic case of reading too much of our own fallen agenda into a situation where it doesn’t belong.

There are a dozen lessons to be learned from the soldier encounters, but the compatibility of soldiering and violence with the way of Jesus is not one of them.

Footnotes:

  1. See also Luke 7:1-10.

  2. Similarly, it is also well known that the Romans used tax revenue to fund much injustice (like the gladiator games in which Christians were slaughtered and the operation of blatantly idolatrous, cultic temples), but instead of telling the tax collectors to stop collecting taxes, John only instructed them to not collect more than was required, so should we conclude that he endorsed such injustices?

  3. Luke 7:36-50.

  4. John 4:7-26.

  5. Matt. 27:26-35.

  6. Gregory A. Boyd, The Crucifixion of the Warrior God: Interpreting the Old Testament’s Violent Portraits of God in Light of the Cross, Volumes 1 & 2 (Fortress Press, 2017), 13244, Kindle.

  7. It might help to place these encounters in a more relatable, less emotionally charged context. Pretend you’ve got a pacifistic friend named Frank. One day you are walking through the mall with Frank and you run into Barry, a friend of yours who is a soldier wearing his uniform. You engage in a minute of small chat and then introduce him to Frank. They also chat for a bit, during which Barry reveals he just celebrated twenty years of marriage with his first and only wife. Frank congratulates Barry and then turns to you and says, “Boy, I wish more of my friends were as committed to their wives as Barry is to his. Most of them have already been divorced two or three times.” Did Frank endorse Barry’s profession or the use of violence? Was Frank’s refusal to go out of his way to condemn the profession of a guy he’d just met an implicit approval of it?

  8. Luke 5:29-31; 7:33-34; 15:1-4; 19:1-10; Mark 2:15-17; Matt. 9:10-13; 11:18-19.

  9. Matt. 21:31-32.

  10. Andy Alexis-Baker, A Faith Not Worth Fighting For: Addressing Commonly Asked Questions about Christian Nonviolence (The Peaceable Kingdom Series), ed. Tripp York and Justin Bronson Barringer (Cascade Books, 2012), 3658, Kindle.

  11. Jean Lasserre, War and the Gospel, trans. Oliver Coburn (Eugene, OR: Wipf & Stock, 1998), 54.

This article is an excerpt from Jesus the Pacifist: A Concise Guide to His Radical Nonviolence.

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